Regarding Loki, Part 5: Uncomfortable Truths

It’s taken a long time for me to return to Loki…

Some of it has been due to some other matters on my plate, but by and large?  What else can I say?  How can I say it?  At this point, people who have made strong opinion on this matter aren’t willing to be wrong.  Loki is their Satan, because that’s what they want him to be.  I almost shelved the series indefinitely, until I recalled one of Loki’s greatest tools.

The uncomfortable truth.

So let’s take a quick look at some of percieved truths of Loki’s detractors, and see what they really look like when you stop for a second and read between the lines.

220px-Snorre_Sturluson-Christian_KrohgWhat seems to be agreed upon: Snorri Sturluson’s recounting of our myths and legends shows that Loki is an enemy of the Gods.
The uncomfortable truth: Snorri Sturluson also suggested that they weren’t gods, but mortal men who people thought of as gods.  Also, that they were from Asia.  Lastly, he makes such a sorry  example for a Faux-Heathen Moses, the only way he could have been worse is to have also been elected the Pope.

Snorri Sturluson was not the last great Heathen skald, who wrote down the legacies of his ancestors in some final tribute to them.  The Prose Edda is not a literary time capsule, containing the carefully coded secrets of our ancestors.  He was not a holy man, and his life doesn’t portray him as such.  He was a politician who also knew a great deal about history as written by the Christian scholars who transcribed it.  He we famous in his time as a poet and statesman, and that’s about it.

If you were nice, you’d call him clever and intelligent.  If you were not nice, you’d call him an opportunistic coward.  Seriously, the man left his cousin on the field of battle due to a disagreement over chain of command.  For someone that they treated as the writer of scripture, the man is a pretty piss poor role model.  There is some evidence that he couldn’t read the runes, which makes his status as some unquestionable authority even more laughable.  For the sake of the Gods, he isn’t even our faith!  He is no different than any other Christian historian!  Some of you go on and on about the evils of Christianity, and you take your dogma strait from a Christian scholar.  It boggles the mind.

This isn’t to say that Sturluson is completely worthless, or even a bad person.  He is, however, not the prophet of the Odin or the writer of the Heathen bible.  We are not  a revealed religion, and we do not have any reason to interpret the lore in a “solo scriptorium” sort of way.  Even if our ancestors did have such a holy text, all we have is material scribed by a completely different faith that had no interest  in turning our sagas and legends into anything but metaphors for their own faith.

What seems to be agreed upon: There is very little evidence of any sort of religious practice that surrounded Loki.
The Uncomfortable Truth: There isn’t a whole lot of evidence for religious practice, period.  Many modern scholars don’t take the reconstruction effort surrounding the Norse pantheon seriously simply because so little has survived.  We could be missing entire Deities from the Norse pantheon, and we wouldn’t even know it.

Every ancient text that you have read has been translated and/or transcribed by Christian scholars.  Nothing written in any Saga or in any chapter of the Poetic Edda was recorded by someone who was a worshiper of our Gods.  Even if they had been, it’s almost moot; our religion is not a revealed religion.  There is no evidence that suggests that the Hammer Hollowing is anything but a modern invention, given to us by the Wiccan faith.  Does anyone have that big of an issue with it?  Does anyone storm out of sumble over it?

No, of course they don’t.  Our religion is a living, breathing thing.  If you want a holy, immutable texts…convert to a religion that has some.  Our religion, by necessity, is made up of our best guesses and efforts to honor our Gods.  If someone’s best guesses and efforts offend you, than that speaks volumes about the character of your person.

ISR_LokiWhat seems to be agreed upon: That Loki worship is abhorrent to true Heathenry and/or Asatru.
The Uncomfortable Truth: If you actually say this out loud and mean it, you are showcasing you’re own warped priorities.

We can talk about the roots of Heathenry at length.  That doesn’t change that the Heathenry faith is, in most cases, a young religion.  It has roots that extended to more venerable practices, and a few of us even have traces of this via there own family traditions.  Even those few of us who were brought up with a portion of spiritual heritage, however, will confess that much of our older lore has been lost.  Our religion is tiny and young, and every issue that gains our collective consideration needs to be of the utmost importance.

So why is there any sort of back and forth on Loki?

Take a priority check here, folks.  The path of our ancestors is under assault by racists.  There are very few worship spaces worldwide, meaning the majority of us will never have the opportunity to see the inside of a Hof.  Our most public figures are the ones that  media can connect back to crimes and scandals.  Our national organizations are split over politics, infighting, and hubris.

These are all important issues.  Whether someone chooses to worship or pray to a God you don’t like is not.

You know who else castigates people who their own personal interpretation on religion?  Mainstream Christianity…which a greater majority of us left because we were tired of seeing this sort of stupidity.  If you denounce Loki’s worship and disregard frith and common sense in the process, you are now performing the exact same fundamentalist foolishness that you tried to get away from.

What is agreed upon: Loki is of Frost Giants lineage, thus he must be the enemy.
The Uncomfortable Truth: Take this to it’s logical conclusion, and than every single god of the Norse pantheon is the enemy of the Norse pantheon.  This includes, but is not  limited to, Thor, Odin, Tyr, and Baldr.

That is, of course, as long as you actually consider them Gods…and not just a few Asian warlords that our ancestors were duped into believing were Gods, as Snorri depicted.  If you do consider them divine, however, almost every single divine being we have any history was born of Jotuns.

Of course, this is also a symptom of an even more bizarre problem.  Are we going to demand our Gods march in for a background check before we worship them?  Are we so fucking stupid that divine genetics is actually some sort of valid theological consideration?  That we would think less of someone or malign them by virtue of them worshiping a genetically undesirable God?  This is madness, and yet it’s only a stone’s throw away from where some of this discourse takes place.

DFRG_LokiWhat is agreed upon: Those who worship Loki are liars.
The Uncomfortable Truth: The only way you can effectively demonize His worship is by lying to yourself.

There are better, more historically accurate arguments than I could ever voice that defend the worship of Loki.  They consist of historical scholarship provided by people who have done their homework, researched the subject in other languages, and actually done something more than read the Prose Edda and call it a day.  I’ve seen people bring these intelligent, well researched counter arguments to the table.

They are either ignored or told that they don’t count.  They are told, in a condescending way, to go back and study the words of 12th century Christian historian if they want to see what a “real Heathen believes”.

One of these people is lying to themselves.

There is a Heathen couple that I consider very close friends.  Our families hang out as often as our busy schedules will allow for, and I count them amongst my innangard.  They do not worship Loki.  They know I do.  That is the beginning and ending of it.  We respect each others differences, because we respect each other.  It’s that simple.  Hell, they belong to the AFA…and I’ve had a few unkind words to say in regards to that organization.  I do not make the mistake of judging them as if they were the AFA, and they do not make the mistake of presuming that I speak for every person who venerates Loki.

I judge them as I judge all people; by their deeds, not by their religious convictions.  I presume the first will end up speaking for the second.

Author’s Note: This article is intended to address only those people who see Loki’s worship as a problem within Heathenry.  If you, personally, choose not to hail the Trickster within  your own home or events?  I have no issue with you; I may or may not disagree with your reasons, but it’s not my choice to make.  There are others out there who think they have some right to approve or disapprove of someone’s religious beliefs.  It is to these people alone that I address the above points.

25 thoughts on “Regarding Loki, Part 5: Uncomfortable Truths

  1. Reblogged this on Loki's Bruid and commented:
    Reblogging with thunderous applause.

  2. Excellent article. Greetings from Sweden and Forn Sidr

  3. moonfire2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Tried by Fire and commented:
    Since this is the last day of the Month for Loki, it seems appropriate that this should go here.

  4. Reblogged this on Thorrdóttir's thoughts on her spritiual Bloodline and commented:
    Good read. I enjoyed this. Now to look up the other parts!

  5. lokavinr says:

    Excellent! Thank you for this. And I have to say…the images on this article basically made my day.

    • I actually make up a Heathen and Pagan memes as they occur to me, and than put them in articles as I feel they are relevant.

      Thank you for the compliment. You put up and re blog some good stuff, so it’s high praise considering the source!

  6. Thank you, posted the link in “El Camino hacia el Norte”, a mexican asatrúar gruop. On an added note: there have been trickster gods in many cultures and pantheons, and ironically they are normally the aalies of humanity. You sir, are a true Heathen.

  7. Am Seeker says:

    The interesting part is, even Satan isn’t as evil a character as people would want to portray – he serves a purpose. That’s all any deity does, and we can pick and choose who we decide to honor and who we decide to give our energies to. Does honoring Satan or Loki make you any different than someone honoring Allah or Christ? What’s important at the end of the day is the faith and strength you gain from your patron deity, and your own actions as a result of their influence. People that think religion is supposed to be black and white are probably the same type of people who follow Christianity, condemn others for not following it, but have never read the bible themselves, or thought critically about anything besides nachos or cool ranch doritos.

    • I think the logical side of our human minds seek binary options, which makes sense in a way….many choices are harder than fewer choices, so we attempt to remove as many options from the roster as we logically can. This is just how we are wired, I think.

      The problem comes when we excessively over simplify; we loose all context to the original question. Thus, these binary choices hinge on something completely irrelevant.

      As for Satan? I don’t mind Christians viewing Satan as evil; it’s their religion, and they at least have a sensible reason for viewing him in that way. Heathenry…shouldn’t want a Satan. Even if Heathens want one, there just isn’t really a sensible place to put one.

  8. Lyesmith says:

    Brilliant and eloquently point. /Thank you/.

  9. Julia says:

    Reblogged this on Thrudvangr and commented:
    I want to thank Loki’s Bruid for reblogging this first. That’s how i found it. Regardless of personal issues or difference I may have with Himself, I found myself nodding along in agreement with this. Himself will still be hailed in any ritual I lead.

  10. Leikin says:

    Reblogged this on The Ravens Breath and commented:
    an excellent note regardign the Veneration and honroing of Loki….

  11. Dianne Luark Ross says:

    Certainly I have had no negative experiences related to Loki but I’m not adverse o negative experiences. I do recall driving type to Dallas for a blot. Seventeen year old KveldulfR toasted Loki and his glasses flew into the big fire. There was ice covering thhe roads and KveldulfR was just about unable to see a thing. I drove him home and he somehow guided me. The car was sliding quite a lot. Think ISA. The roads were like frozen hard glass. I came into KveldulfR’s wondrous abode and bedroom. Saw such beautiful huge hunks of raw amber and many other treasures, was able to hear songs of wolf riding witches, celtic harp, beautiful piano playing and hear boasts of chocolate soufle skills! Such treasured memories, all because dear Loki flung our Warder of the Lore’s glasses into the fire! Twenty six years ago I believe. If Odhinn is willing to walk with Loki at his side I am open to Loki’s naughtiness. He usually puts things aright.1

    • Thank you for the story. I’m not sure if you’re referring to Mr. Grundy, who I’ve yet the pleasure of meeting, but no matter who it concerns? Always nice to hear a good tale!

      Sometimes it takes me a while to figure out what I was supposed to learn from any given event…but once I understand? It makes perfect sense.

  12. Amber Drake says:

    Reblogged this on Fire and Ink and commented:
    Some very good points are being made in this blog post.

  13. I found one of your replies extremely interesting. Followers of the Luciferian belief would find enlightening, due to the times we live in.
    “What’s important at the end of the day is the faith and strength you gain from your patron deity, and your own actions as a result of their influence.” Proper Credit was cited and I hope you will receive traffic.

    • That was actually something Am Seeker said, not I. Though I wish I had!

      Regardless, thank you for stopping by and seeing fit to reblog it.

      Edit: I saw that you got the correct citation after I made the comment!

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